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Scrapyard Bob
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Posted - 2012.03.20 13:26:00 -
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Snarf Aldes wrote:Desmont McCallock wrote:Just another note: Upon resizing the browser the right hand side panel gets dislocated. It's probable a table design issue. I know, it's a side effect of the way i position the div blocks. I assume a minimal browser width of 1280 pixels, on smaller screen it messes up the positioning. I'll have a look at it.
1280 is too big of an assumption. The safer number is still around 1000px wide (so it works on 1024x768 screens or on people who keep their browser non-maximized).
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Scrapyard Bob
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Posted - 2012.03.21 15:26:00 -
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Andy DelGardo wrote:Is there some trick to minimize the market window while the scanning is running? Also is there anything i can do to make it as fast as possible? Some general "noob" proof tutorial would be nice, for the setup, upload and actual scanning tasks.
a) No you cannot minimize the market window as EVE will just re-open it each time the IGB makes the Javascript call to look up an item.
b) You cannot make it "as fast as possible" any faster then about 1 lookup every 3.0-3.5 seconds. If you attempt to call the EVE Javascript functions too fast, the client will just block your request and stop looking up items at all. (3.5 seconds seems to be the "safe" number, the closer you try to get to 3.0 seconds the more likely that you'll get bit.)
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Scrapyard Bob
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Posted - 2012.03.21 16:48:00 -
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Andy DelGardo wrote: Btw are u running on a server, with multiple accounts for scanning? How do i "correctly" setup 2 accounts on the same machine, i noticed i get 2 different keys? Atm i just added 2x uploads in the 0.6 tool api, but i guess i may send redundant data?
Quad Core system with 16GB of RAM (I need to upgrade to a 6-core or 8-core unit next year).
As for running multiple accounts.
1) Install EVE 2) Fire up EVE shortcut, login on 1st account 3) Fire up EVE shortcut, login on 2nd account
You only need 1 upload key.
If you want the two different EVE instances to have different graphical settings, then you need to setup "junction" points and run the first EVE from directory A and the second EVE from directory B.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Multiple_clients#Method_1_-_Junctions |

Scrapyard Bob
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Posted - 2012.04.15 23:23:00 -
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- Definitely needs a "dark theme" as the default for the IGB
- When looking up an item like Tritanium, there needs to be a summary pane above the detailed buy/sell order listing indicating the approximate price.
- URL address needs to update so that you can copy/paste links to share with others such as the link to the Tritanium price in The Forge |

Scrapyard Bob
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Posted - 2012.04.16 11:23:00 -
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EMD and EMK use the "5% simulated" method where they take the total unit volume up for sale and calculate how much you would pay if you bought the bottom 5% of the volume. EC offers a "sell percentile" in their API call, which is close to the EMK/EMD numbers. The 5% sim-buy works great for commodities, fairly well for moderate volume items, but does tend to fall apart slightly in the quieter regions on the low-volume items where sell prices can have a large spread and there's only a handful of units for sale.
I'm not a fan of straight averages, as they get unduly influenced either by the "buy a zillion units at 0.01 ISK" at the low end of the market or "selling 1 unit for a zillion ISK" at the high end. At a minimum, you have to drop the outliers (and define that in some fashion). Even EMK's harmonious mean numbers run much "hotter" then what you'll actually pay when shopping.
For buy orders it's trickier as the 5% rule doesn't work as well, especially on the lower volume items. But if you have a bunch of units that you want to move, the 5% simulated sell isn't a bad method (a 2% or 4% version might give better results).
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Scrapyard Bob
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Posted - 2012.04.21 14:29:00 -
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I don't think you have a page like the following yet:
http://www.evemarketeer.com/item/group_summary/18
Ideally, it should list the top N market hub systems (Jita, Amarr, Dodixe, Rens).
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Scrapyard Bob
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Posted - 2012.04.23 13:07:00 -
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The group summary pages are a major time saver for me as a producer. I can hit the group summary page (which is customizable if you have an EMK account) and see where I should buy my supplies from. If one region is 5-10% below the others, then it's worth a 1% shipping fee to pull inputs from that region (if my buy orders aren't pulling fast enough).
It's also a handy tool for figuring out "I have 100 units of XYZ, which trade hub offers the most ISK/u".
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Scrapyard Bob
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Posted - 2012.05.03 02:54:00 -
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Snarf Aldes wrote: There is a new menu item called Market Groups, it opens a page where you can search for a market group to display. You can also dubble-click a market group on the left hand menu.
Thanks. Now for the next request:
Update the browser title so it says "Eve Addicts - Market Group - Minerals ID 18" and update the URL line so that Firefox can easily find that page using its "awesome bar" search. With the EMK site, I could just type "group min" into the address bar and it would pull up the EMK's summary page for the market group.
The items on the market group page should be linked so that we can go to the item detail page.
I still prefer the EMK page because I could see all (4) major market hub prices at a glance for an entire group of items, which made it easier to go shopping for things like bulk minerals / datacores where I wanted it now, at the cheapest sell price and didn't have time to babysit buy orders. Or if I had a bunch of product - I could quickly see which of the four market hubs had the best sell prices and then ship that product to that hub for selling.
Thanks for adding the 5% number. Any ETA on adding that to the API? |

Scrapyard Bob
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Posted - 2012.05.17 16:28:00 -
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Main things I use APIs for:
- How much my inputs are going to cost me. So the lowest 5% sell or the sell/percentile price is important. I don't base input costs on buy order values.
- What I can sell my outputs for (either to a buy order or as sell orders), again this is generally the 5% sell or sell/percentile value. If I want to sell my stuff quickly, I need to be in the bottom 5% of the total orders, not chasing some imaginary average value up in the middle of the pack.
- Figuring out if there's a possible trade opportunity across a regional boundary. In which case I'm looking at the top buy orders compared to the low-end of sells in the other region.
- Estimating what my stockpiles and assets are worth. Ideally done with either an average of the 5% sell prices in the top N market hubs, or as a 5% sell aggregate of the main market hubs. |
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